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CINDY: Up to the house. Its going to have to be a little bit vague on that. The avid hunter would strip his victim naked (often in subzero temperatures) and simply set her free. FLOTHE: Wasnt painted. FLOTHE: Friday morning. She'd noticed women's clothes, toys, and dogs wandering around, according to. Now her body has been exhumed from from the cemetery at Anchorage Memorial Park with the hope that DNA testing and facial reconstruction will lead to her being identified. CINDY: Um hmm. But then also, it was not personal enough that it would come home with me and affect my sleeping. Only 12 bodies of the 17 women Hansen confessed to killing have been found. (crying) REVEALED: Roald Dahl books were neutered by woke consultants aged eight to 30 - led by 'non-binary, asexual, After one school says it is families' responsibility to police their children's social media spats, Jenni or debate this issue live on our message boards. CINDY: Yep. She had been engaging in sex work. It shows just how desolate the area is, these poor women really didnt have a snowballs chance. Hansen said that victim is the woman known to police as Eklutna Annie, a roughly 20-year-old brunette whose body was discovered in 1980 by electric workers repairing a power line outside Eagle River. You mentioned a minute ago, Cindy, that he wanted you to go home with him, or something, and you didnt want to go home with him, or Police suspected the real death toll was even higher. And he had called me and I slept through it. I wish we could say for sure that this was Roberts final victim, but its thought that there were probably more. We should all help each other out and give love to everyone as much as possible. Now, from reading your report apparently you had a pretty good description of the house that you gave the police. It must also be mentioned that she and the children were constantly insulted and belittled by Robert, and it wouldnt be surprising to learn that he was physically abusive; there may have been some trauma bonding there as well. (rustling sound as Flothe shows his gun to Cindy) Did it have that or was He was 75 years old. Email khopkins@adn.com. CINDY: No. CINDY: Uh huh What did you learn about yourself in the process of making this film? In 1984 this serial was sentenced to 461 years, a ridiculous amount of years to ensure that he would never be released again. If it was something technical, of course, it would take a couple more takes, but for the most part, hes the kind of director that filled me in, let me know the mood that he wanted to convey and where he wanted it to land. CINDY: Nope. There was this aha moment that there are a lot of people like me within the company. We are no longer accepting comments on this article. Once inside, Hansen pulled a gun on her and placed her in handcuffs. Interesting stuff. Like a little Datsun station wagon. He spent many of the final years of his life working as a jailhouse barber. Darla had known that shed married a dedicated hunter, so when Robert had taken time away from the family, it was easy to explain away. FLOTHE: In your face? FLOTHE: When you got into the car, and you were giving him a head job, is that when he pulled out the gun? FLOTHE: And about what time was that? With his death, the full extent of Hansen's deeds, including the true number of his victims, the location of their bodies and the identities of all the women he kidnapped, raped and sometimes hunted like wild game before murdering might never be known. Hansen worked in a supply room at the Lemon Creek prison in Juneau, where in 1990 authorities found an aeronautical chart, a hand-knit winter hat, magazine articles on plastic explosives and correspondence with a Juneau boat broker. CINDY: And then after I looked I recognized him. CINDY: Yep. (inaudible) FLOTHE: Was there anything else unusual about the house? He was also an avid hunter. Thats why he did it. Is there anything else that you have coming up? ROBERT HANSEN (RH): Uh, you want me, Sir, to start when I first met this CINDY PAULSON the first time or, RH: or what? Laurel Andrews was a reporter for the Anchorage Daily News, Alaska Dispatch News and Alaska Dispatch. As soon as he was of age Robert joined the Army reserves and moved to another town where he found himself a wife, but he was still treated badly. Okay, she was standing there and I was driving down the street and she waved a little bit and so forth and I pulled up there and talked with her. He invited me afterwards to go to dinner with him and a couple of his friends because he felt so bad about putting me through that. CINDY: He approached me. John Paulson. After being raped and tortured in the basement of Hansen's home, teen sex worker Cindy Paulson made a run for it at the airport while her captor was busy loading his plane. Can you tell me a little about your character and the status of that project? Why dont we start then with what will be freshest in mind, which is the the cases that are pending now and from what happened in June of last year. Your email address will not be published. Over by that house on Fourth, with the pickup truck camper. Hansens Truck & Datsun Close-up (copyright Leland E. Hale). CINDY: Yes, directly. Required fields are marked *. It was a red scar RH: Yes. Your email address will not be published. When his wife, Darla Marie Henrichsen Hensen, and their children were home (they visited family in Arkansas quite often) its believed that Robert would simply skip taking his victim home altogether. Hansens Weapon Cache (courtesy Alaska State Troopers; found in the attic of Hansens residence; note the handgun at center left), Your email address will not be published. FLOTHE: At what time did he call you on Saturday? How was the directing process with Scott Walker? FLOTHE: At this time, so I know what youre talking about, cause I have not been in the house, Cindy CINDY: Yep. FLOTHE: What was your phone number at that time? "My gosh, she is running naked and in handcuffs on the streets of Anchorage scared to death," Rothschild recalled of the scene. FLOTHE: I wanna show you six pictures, Cindy, and the person that were talking about may or may not be in here. And it may not even be in there. If Im unsure of something, I promise to tell you, and yall the dates in this case about drove me nuts. FLOTHE: How did he get in? CINDY: He wrote it down on a (inaudible). I was going through those emotions and seeing the same things. FLOTHE: So it had a longer barrel than Alaska's Missing Planes and People. Can you describe that again to me, Cindy? Big ol like caribou and goats heads, big ones stuffed everywhere. FLOTHE: I hope not. Is this part of a deliberate strategy to develop further as an actress and put the High School 3 image behind? The stuffed heads of the animals which hed killed lined his walls, and damming items such as unique jewelry pieces which could easily be linked back to many of the missing women were found within the home as well. "I can still see him when he got livid like that," he said. Im just following my gut, and if its speaking to me, then Im doing it. The killer received a 461-year sentence in February 1984, pleading guilty to four of the murders. And brown socks. Did he give you a sense of what he wanted and then get out of the way and let you follow your instincts as an actor? They searched his plane, home and car and found he had some items, including jewelry, that had belonged to the women. Identifying and finding Hansens weapon cache would prove essential to making the murder case against the Butcher, Baker. [Installment Two]. Opening August 23rd, the film also features Dean Norris, Radha Mitchell and Curtis 50 Cent Jackson. As an act of retribution against the people who he felt had tortured him, Robert talked a young bakery employee into helping him blow up a local school bus barn. See if theres anyone in here that you might recognize. Cindy had been with BC for 14 years (more than 30 years to date), managing a region and leading many projects when she felt something was missing. FLOTHE: Were you shown any pictures of him before? There. FLOTHE: How did you know that? FLOTHE: Did he point the gun at you at any time? CINDY: OK. Brown and Caldwells former Chief Technical Officer Cindy Paulson understands that for Balance and Belonging to thrive, employees need to be who they truly are. Glenn Flothe and his wife, Cheryl, after her successful kidney transplant in 2007 Then he had got my other hand cuffed, I dont know how he did it, it was just frightening, cause I didnt really I fought, but not a lot, cause I knew he would do something. What was your reaction when you first read the script? One of my greatest aspirations is to change the entire industry, creating a space that embraces the full range of potential and diversity that humans bring.. CINDY: Uh huh. Did he have a moustache, Cindy? CINDY: The Buick Century. Feb 12, 2023. Covering the hottest movie and TV topics that fans want. Too often, Robert Hansen was believed instead of the women, many of them dancers or prostitutes, who testified against him. Robert Hansen confessed to killing 17 women in the 1970s and early 80s and after the murder 30 years ago, led authorities to her body near a lake in the north of Anchorage. It was plain. When she made the move to California in 2001, she became more open, sharing that she was happily married to a woman who also happened to be a great cook and winemaker. Cindy coughs.) FLOTHE: You think if I showed you some pictures of some cars later on you might be able to pick it out? It was funny though, cause before, when he was getting ready to take me to his cabin, he said that, um, there had been seven other girls before me. FLOTHE: Like this? The woman tried to escape and he pulled out a gun, he said. * I strive to be as concise as possible when it comes to facts as theres no telling what an article may be used for. She Gets rescued By an patrol Officer. She described the kidnapper and his plane to authorities, but when police questioned him, he had an alibi and a gentle demeanor, so they let him go. The remains of an unidentified victim of an Alaskan serial killer who hunted down his victims as if they were game have been exhumed in a bid to establish who she was. FLOTHE: Six in the evening? FLOTHE: OK. Its been some time since you last talked to him, in fact, its been quite some time. Was it important for you to give the victims a voice in this film? Order my latest book, What Happened In Craig, HERE and HERE, true crime on Epicenter Press about Alaskas Worst Unsolved Mass Murder. Cindy Paulson Interview with Sgt. This actually wasnt an uncommon thing for parents to do during this time period, plenty of us lefties in past generations were forced to conform, but apparently this deeply scarred this young man. Cindy reveals that Hansen flashed some bills at her and that she was entranced by the thought of his money. I mean, man, what he did to me, he had to kill me. Like a Datsun Toyota cream-colored car. The website seems to belong to the author of the book which inspired the aforementioned Hollywood movie, his name is Leland E. Hale. By the time hed caught up, Cindy had flagged down a passing motorist; this good samaritan drove the teen to a nearby hotel room, and he promptly notified the Alaskan police. FLOTHE: Hmm. CINDY: I talked to him and made an appointment to meet him and I didnt show up. I thought it was an amazing take on pop culture and where we are today and how the generation is so media-driven and see and be seen. It was just a really interesting take on college students. Learn how your comment data is processed. Workers and drug dealers and dancers came and went, many with few ties to the state and no one to notice if they went missing. He would abduct the women and take them to remote places outside the city, sometimes driving them and other times he would fly his private plane. CINDY: It was a black If she saw blood, well, that would also have made sense as her husband was a hunter. It was super fun and really quick. FLOTHE: And what color were his boots? Women were tortured, beaten and assaulted before being blindfolded, with their hands bound behind their backs and told to run. It was smooth. FLOTHE: OK. Was it a blue color? CINDY: Theres no trees in the front yard. FLOTHE: I have its kind of a picture book with different types of guns in it, OK. Would you take a look through that picture book and see if you see a gun that might be similar to the one that this man had? CINDY: Regular Just working boots. In this installment, Cindy provides additional information about how she met and ended up with Robert Hansen. Were the lights on or off? Over the last 30 years, Cindy has facilitated more than 100 successful workshops/work sessions, including a dozen all-day . CINDY: Yeah, but then again one seat looks the same. Only reason I know was cause I was layin there. Eventually his buddys conscience got the better of him, and he confessed his crimes to the police; for his role, Robert was sentenced to three years incarceration. (pause) They told Hansen they had seized his map marked with 17 locations, spots that they believed indicated the locations of bodies. FLOTHE: OK. Hansen owned a bakery in a downtown mini mall and lived across town with his wife and children, who knew nothing of his double life. Hudgens: Its interesting that actors put themselves in a place where they can feel so hurt and feel so much pain. CINDY: I think he gave me a five. It is so nice when you dont have to build a character from the ground up by yourself. CINDY: Yep. So he felt he should go and get the girl and take her over to his house. So he shows up Sunday night, then. 2022 Anchorage Daily News. After hed taken a nap, Cindys kidnapper informed her that they were going on a little trip on his plane, but that she shouldnt be alarmed as hed already taken seven other women out to this location. Daily News reporter Sean Doogan contributed to this story. Brown shoes. "When you kill that many women there's a good chance you may have killed some convict's girlfriend," said Bob Spinde, who was in charge of prisoner records. When he reached the Glenn Highway, he kept driving. He doesnt mess around. Process Intensification with BC:Ntensify, Technology and Innovation Leadership Team, Brown and Caldwell looks to the future of 75 years and counting, Black History Month and Engineers Week: Why I became an engineer. CINDY: Uh huh. [Installment Three]. Once theyd arrived Robert left his handcuffed victim in the back seat of his vehicle while he loaded his aircraft as per usual; Cindy waited until her captor was distracted, and when she saw her chance she jumped out of the car and ran for her life! Hansen said she had a knife in her purse. FLOTHE: How did you know this? No comments have so far been submitted. Im not involved though. And I said, Fine, no problem.. Cause that was the smallest he had. The date on her grave marker is April 24, 1984, one day off the date the body was found. Previously I would avoid the conversation about my significant other, she says. When his truck became stuck in the mud, the woman tried to run. CINDY: Um, he had me chained around my neck for a time. Kidnapped: The True Story of Cindy Paulson, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. Here for the first time are the tape recordings that document that rendezvous. Now a bad childhood doesnt excuse cold blooded murder, of course, but it can help shed light on how some people are capable of committing atrocities such as these while the majority of us are not. This is Installment Four of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. https://lelandhale.com/butcherbaker/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/cindy_interview_mofo.mp3, Murder in Alaska: Teen Killers In The 80s, Arrest of Robert Hansen: Nothing But the Truth, Sort Of, Darla Hansen: The Better Half of Robert Hansen, Hansen's Past Warranted Property Search - Butcher Baker, A Killer's Turning Point, Badly Missed - Butcher Baker. CINDY: Nope. Its another fun, more light-hearted character that the audiences have never seen me do before. In her case, becoming authentic on the job took 10-plus years. Robert thoroughly enjoyed hunting humans; these ladies were savagely murdered with his favorite weapons: a Ruger Mini-14 and a hunting knife. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Cindy later recounted that Robert had offered her $200 bucks for oral sex, and that hed pulled a gun on her just as soon as she stepped inside his vehicle; the teen was driven back to Roberts home where she was chained to a beam by her throat, raped, and tortured for several hours. FLOTHE: Two hundred dollars is a lot of money This was a secretive killer who is believed to have taken half of his murders with him to the grave. But after some bodies were found by hunters in the area, investigators re-visited suspects and realized he fit the profile. Stephen Hoage, operations administrator for the state medical examiner's office said: 'We know what happened to her. Roberts father, an overbearing man who never did care to have a decent relationship with his son, expected young Robert to be busy at work in the familys bakery whenever he wasnt in school. And she, uh, cant remember if she wasnt there or she couldnt couldt meet me. Glenn Flothe. Being authentic creates the space for diversity of thought and means drawing on experiences that fall outside the box. She would, of course, run like hell for her life, but the killer would track her down. Vanessa Hudgens: I was a little bit shaken up that this guy who was well respected in the neighborhood and everyone knew as the family man could have done such atrocious and heinous crimes. I absolutely adore him. CINDY: Hey, for a blowjob in the car, hell yeah. And so, I was guided along very beautifully by them. FLOTHE: Did you notice anything about the sights? Cindy Paulson is Portrayed by Vanessa Hudgens In The Film 17 Year Old Cindy Paulson is handcuffed and screaming for help. Later the girl stated that she had immediately known that those seven other women had been murdered, and she was very determined not to become number eight! I think it will be a fun change of pace for me. Episode 7: The Frozen Ground. Hansen died around 1:30 a.m. at Alaska Regional Hospital, said Sherrie Daigle, deputy director of administrative services for the Department of Corrections. Required fields are marked *. CINDY: Uh huh. Lemon Creek Superintendent Dan Carothers called it "the bust of the decade" for Alaska prison officials. FLOTHE: OK. He picked her up in town and told her he was driving her to his home in Muldoon, he said. And I really, really If there was any chance of me getting away, he wasnt getting away with it. FLOTHE: The same person. CINDY: Uh huh. "He will not be missed," said Frank Rothschild, the assistant district attorney who tried the case. CINDY: Yep. Sure, no problem, Im like, fine, no problem. Hey, no problem, you know. Her circumstances were different and not ideal for most, but that was just her current state. About four stairs to get into the house. Hansen later became one of the first prisoners at the newly opened Spring Creek Correctional Center, where he had remained until this year. People either loved it or they hated it. They look at them in a very specific way. Does he tell you anything at that point, once hes got the handcuffs on CINDY: Yeah. FLOTHE: Or did he give you any money? This is a very intense film. Its by far the craziest transformation Ive had yet. Hansen grew up in Iowa, the son of immigrant bakers. And, getting to that point, its so powerful, she says. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. So its immoral to make snap judgments about people. What about Gimme Shelter which is completed? FLOTHE: Oh and you saw a sign that said Dead End? He found an outlet for his feelings of sexual rejection and frustration through criminalityfirst via smaller displays of power like kleptomania, then graduating to arson, burning down a school bus garage in his hometown of Pocahontas, Iowa in 1960, a crime for which he served 20 months in prison. It was smooth like Figure 20s handle, but the gun was shaped like Figure 21. Its very specific and unique, and its that type of film. FLOTHE: What did he ask you? At the motel, police found 17-year-old Cindy Paulson, still handcuffed, huddled fearfully in a room. First, we hear about that meet up from Robert Hansens confession. My left wrist, right there As shown in 'The Frozen Ground,' Cindy Paulson was Hansen's only victim who got away while he was trying to load her into his aircraft. This is Installment Three of the September 27, 1983, interview of Cindy Paulson by Sgt. I just had no idea what it would be like for me to be fully authentic at work.. FLOTHE: The same car as on Friday? CINDY: You know, I didnt feel nothing, cause I knew I wasnt gonna live. Can you talk about your fun cameo in Machete Kills and what that experience was like? FLOTHE: When did he tell you this? And he fuckin had a tan or an Army green tan coat or Army green And boots. Together they entertained colleagues at their home. How does it compare to what you envisioned when you first read the script? Being in an office meant that team building happened naturally, and to re-create that connection virtually, takes a lot of To be authentic, inclusion needs action behind it. As you know, the only electronic I open is a crappy android. CINDY: Tons FLOTHE: Were the handcuffs tight? Growing up Robert was scrawny, he had this terrible stutter, and a super bad case of acne; all of this made him the target of bullies everywhere. It was very, very eerie and really tough, but John (Cusack) was great. FLOTHE: Was there anybody with him on Friday? Like many killers he targeted transient women, they were often exotic dancers and sex workers; after hed charmed the woman of his choice and done his best to convince her of his harmlessness, Robert would talk her into leaving with him. Kids in England had to wear masks at school because No10 'didn't want an argument' with Nicola Sturgeon - Health ministers knew there was no evidence to justify making kids abide by rule of 6 - but No10 'didn't Matt Hancock branded teaching unions 'absolute a**es' in leaked WhatsApp messages with then-education Holiday home owners in Scotland face new SNP tax hike under plans from front-runner to be new First Scotland should just self-identify as an independent country, one SNP member proposed. Im not going to help you do that, all right? Dr. Cindy Paulson, senior vice president and Brown and Caldwell's Chief Technical Officer, is responsible for advancing the company's technical strategy from innovation to talent development and quality delivery. He intended to do the same with Cindy on June 13, 1983. Since his release from the Iowan prison, Robert had been arrested more than once for crimes such as shoplifting, but somewhere around 71 and 72 he was arrested for having sexually assaulted both a sex worker and a housewife by the names of Patricia Roberts and Susan Heppeard. I just want to do everything. Cindy . *Though its not super graphic or bloody, this article does contain a couple of images of the killer posing with hunted game animals. And I was just running. Robert Hansens first encounter with Cindy Paulson seemed inauspicious. FLOTHE: What was he driving then, Sunday night? And he contacts you. Employee-owned firm continues pioneering legacy of technical excellence, innovation, and talent growth, Brown and Caldwell engineers share their inspirational stories. 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