Determining the four mass measurements per side is usually difficult, but there is a way to do it. Its the finest all-around cartridge available for youth, women, and new shooters. Bulls with straight looking points wont score well. thanks coondog Aug 10, 2005 #2 Tom New member Joined Jan 22, 2001 Messages 4,985 Location San Antonio, Texas, USA Here's a bunch from 300 to 400+ SCI scoring ones. Notice by comparing these classes of bulls that misjudging a couple of points by a couple of inches will affect the accuracy of your score. You must log in or register to reply here. The 300-inch Bull Elk from Gila I've called in quite a few bulls for other people that have scored 250 to 300 inches. I love to field judge bulls and then score them on the ground to see how close my field judging was to the real thing. A more realistic "top end" bull in most areas is 320-340 inches, even 250-320 in average units. Other 7mms The 7mm family hatched around 1892 with the 7x57mm Mauser and has since grown to fifteen or more. Scoring mounted bulls is a great way to improve your skills as well. If youre one of those all-American .30-caliber guys, get a 30 Nosler precision rifle with a good brake, pair it with a tough, accurate bullet and never look back. Big Game Hunting - 250 Elk - Hey elk guys, does anyone have any pictures of a 220 to 250 class elk. Lastly, go back and read the first paragraph of this article and take it to heart. Pair it with an accurate 180-grain bullet and hunt confidently, knowing that your rifle is adequate for any reasonable scenario. Sixteen-year-old Cody Vine of Arizona took this 7x6 bull elk scoring 428 while bowhunting in the Kaibab National Forest last fall. Some bulls may vary from this, but these are very realistic of what you will see on mature 66 bulls. has been called the ultimate elk cartridge. Mag. The reason is because Im not that interested in net scores. Grossed at 323 and netted 318. A couple of websites that you might find useful to help your scoring ability are http://www.boone-crockett.org/, and www.Pope-Young.org. .284-inch bullet or a 180-gr. font-weight: bold; notice the short 5/6 points on mtnman picture. This bill is 300 with the broken 5th. Its very easy to stare at great fronts or a big whale tail and miss those 6 third points! The 6.5 Creedmoor, 7mm-08 Remington, and .308 Winchester rifles have 22-inch barrels. Distance, of course, plays an important role in the viability of a given caliber in elk hunting. Finally, the .280 Ackley Improved is rocketing to western-hunting stardom. Mag. It would go about 305-310 with a whole tine. Advertisement. elk bullets, weight to weight, have a higher SD for potentially better penetration. Most bulls that I see either have weak 3rds or weak 5ths. Dreamstime is the world`s largest stock photography community. font-size: 18px; Elk dont like any of this. There is a persistent myth flying about that the 7mm Rem Mag shoots too fast. Many claim its bullets dont have time to open. A few more calibers throwing those famous .308 bullets include the .300 Ruger Compact Magnum, .300 SAUM, .300 WSM, .30/308 Norma Mag., .300 H&H, 30 Nosler, .300 Wby. Looking for a Hunting or Fishing Partner. Here was the same basic belted magnum case, but the 7mm threw bullets as heavy as 175 grains. Reply 11-30-2006, 09:14 AM #3 . This unsung cartridge is awesome for a light, short-barreled, all-around elk rifle. Example: You estimate 8 inches between the ear tip and the widest point of the main beam. Silvertine kills more 400" bulls than any other hunt ranch . launched 2,600 fps will still be churning some 1,800 ft-lb energy. Killing a big bull at a steep quartering angle takes a very good cartridge, topped with a tough, deep-penetrating bullet. Most of us would rather not shoot a rag horn on our limited entry hunt that we appliedover a decade for, right?! The smaller the bullet, the higher its quality and the more precise its deposit must be. Add 16 to 26 (tip to tip) and you have a spread of 42. Check back next week when I go into even more detail and provide indepth examples on field judging elk. If you have a pic of a bull that size, could you post it for me? If it is shorter or longer than the hump on the back, I add or subtract inches accordingly. Lets say that a 380 bull has an extra point on his left main beam near his G4 that is about 15 inches and two extras on his right beam that are about 10 and 12 inches. word-break: normal; Most 225-grain factory loads are rated 2,750 to 2,800 fps, enough velocity to put about 3,900 ft-lb of energy into that little bullet. Early on, the 7mm Rem. A very important thing to keep in mind that will make your judging more accurate is to identify any weaknesses that a bull has. Another bull, struck mid-rib by a 140-grain .280 bullet, simply crumpled. Youll be much more satisfied with the outcome of most of your elk hunts. The accurate answer is it depends. The antlers are light in mass by comparison to an older larger bull. Elk shed their antlers beginning in late February for the . You should look for at least 4 of curl for a 20 tine). in a 22-inch barrel. Keep in mind that on 66s you dont add the extension of the main beam past the bulls G5 as a sixth point. We have updated our Terms of Use and Privacy Policy as of May 5th, 2020, http://www.mckenhunting.com/Gallery_23_01.htm, Hunting Montana 2022 and looking forward to 2023, Two new elk hunters, a breath of fresh air, What caliber are you using to get pass through shots on elk. 360 Bull: G1= 16, G2= 16, G3= 16, G4= 20, G5= 12. Shenandoah Valley. color: #ffffff; JavaScript is disabled. Start with the .30/30 Winchester and climb until your nose bleeds. I gain the most consistency and accuracy with my field judging by actually scoring lots of antlers and, with each one, I gain more confidence. Notice that 6 thirds would make a 350 type bull that should have 12 or better thirds, a 338 bull. While growing up in the early 1960s, I lived next to the federal elk refuge in Jackson Hole, Wyoming. Bullets engineered to expand at 7mm terminal velocities are the ticket, and there are plenty of them. The .30/30, .300 Savage, .30/06, .300 Win. The only way to really estimate the inside spread of a bull elk is for him to face you. In the past, you had to handload to get these, but long-range shooters have created sufficient demand that many ammo makers now offer factory ammo featuring bullets heavier than 200-grains. The .264 topped out at 140-grains. If recoil doesnt bother you, Id look hard at the .300 WSM, .325 WSM, even the new 6.8 Western, agonize over a 24-inch barrel, and probably compromise with a 23-inch barrel. It has nice tails but the 4 is a little short as well as the 3. Be careful not to air judge too quickly because once you start saying a bull is 325 and he really is 300 your judging scale gets skewed. border-style: solid; The 6.5 Creedmoor is no dragon slayer. Performance & security by Cloudflare. The 140 Nosler AB is mentioned a lot on this site as the best bullet and effective out to around 400 or 500 yards. This is my brothers bull from 2003, grosses right at 295. Mag., and no one howls about that being too fast. Cloudflare Ray ID: 7a1764766e3627da That is knowing if the bull sports a 320, 340, 350, 360 or a super 370-plus B&C gross rack can be a practical and quick judging system in the field. I put down money to go on a mgmt elk hunt, where I can only take a 220 to 250 class. You start by taking the first measurement at the smallest diameter between the first and second point, and then so on until you have 4 measurements total per side no matter how many points (tines) the bull has (See Coreys section on Scoring Elk). Let me confess that I, too, consider these best caliber articles overdone and quite subjective, but by hashing them over and over, we gain insights. No rough-and-tough manly man in the 1960s was going to admit he couldnt handle that. The second method requires you to actually break the elk down and measure him by estimating actual point and beam length, mass and inside spread. In 2022, he was named as the brands Shooting Editor. So match your 7mm elk dreams to your recoil tolerance and select among this big family. profile of a giant - big bull elk stock pictures, royalty-free photos & images. Handloaders easily equal or outdo factory-load performancesomething that cant be said of the other fast .30s listed here. Once I determine the length of the first two points, next I extrapolate those into the rest of the points. in the mid .4s to low .5s, good enough to provide maximum point blank range of 320 to 340 yards on a 10-inch target zone. There are several ways to field judge elk. Entact would have been close to 310. Before we begin, you should understand that this is a round up of the best calibers and cartridges for elk, not necessarily the most popular ones. Short action chamberings are likely to be in shorter, lighter rifles, so instead of a .338 Win. Of course, there is a great shortcut for judging bulls that uses anatomical references, but instead of trying to estimate each measurement individually, I use a magic number for the main beam length, mass, and inside spread and then I compare the length of the points from one side to the other and estimate shortest points. Here's how to set realistic expectations, get it done, and have a blast. border-style: solid; Any real or perceived failure of the 7mm Rem. Thats why I like 7mm and .30-caliber magnums with tough, heavy bullets, and why I consider an elk hunter toting a .338 magnum a wise man. Anybody got pictures? Just about any 180-grainer will do, since the .30-06 doesnt produce bullet-destroying velocities. Big cartridges provide forgiving margins of error. Look for good curve in the G1, G2, & G3 points. From: WapitiBob 20-Apr-12 It worked fine for long range deer hunting, but elk hunters wanted more bullet. The second method requires you to actually break the elk down and measure him by estimating actual point and beam length, mass and inside spread. Good luck on your hunts and have fun field judging the bulls! For all its virtues, like the 6.5 Creedmoor the 6.5 PRC just doesnt have the bullet diameter and weight to handle steeply angled shot presentations. Mag., .300 RUM, and .30-378 Wby. Mag., and does so out of shorter barrels. The hunt was extra special since his father, James (right), who's also a professional guide, called the big bull in for him. As we walked into the area where we were going to hunt, we spotted a couple of cow elk near a pond. } As with anything, the devil is in the details. Click to reveal I realizethat not every bull will be a typical 66. With the right bullet, a .270 will put down any bull walking the earth today. Also known as the .280 Ackley Improved or the .280 Remington Ackley Improved, the .280 AI is basically a .280 Remington case (itself a .30-06 Springfield case necked down to 7mm/.284") that's . 290-300 is what I always guesstimated him at, but I vowed to never put a tape to an animal after living in Texas. Finally, go back to the main beam, mass and inside spread. And I write calibers and cartridges because caliber means the diameter of the bore. I have several non-typicals available each year over 600". Zeroed 3.3 inches high at 100 yards, that projectile will drop just two inches at 300 yards, deflect just five inches in a 10 mph right angle wind, and cling to 2,866 ft-lb energy. throwing similar weight projectiles means youre packing elk medicine. border-color: #656565; In pure engineering terms, the 30 Nosler is the best of the entire flock of 30-caliber magnums. We offer a 100% Authenticity Guarantee on all products sold on our website. bullet will carry about 250 ft-lb more energy. I think sometimes I forget how nice a 300" elk really is when you read and get caught up in the numbers of 350+ trophy elk. .tg .tg-sklq { The hunt was donated by Trophy Mountain Ranch, an estate hunting outfitter located near Cowdrey, Colorado. Please feel free to agree, disagree, and share stories from your own experience in the comments section below. I highly recommend dissecting a bull thoroughly before deciding to harvest that animal. But seriously, the way to judge them is to score their frame and points just like you would a typical 66, then size up the non typical points and add that to your total. Might not make any record books but will be a good looking trophy to mount. A 300 class bull usually has eye guards and brow tines that are less that the diatance from his eyes to the end of his nose. What does this mean? At magnum velocities, the soft bullets tended to fragment and fail to penetrate adequately. The .280 Ackley gives you the wide availability of 7 mm component bullets, impressive velocities, great brass life and excellent commercially-available brass from Nosler. This is a grand-old cartridge based on the .308 Winchester, but it is loaded with a .358-caliber bullet. Be careful with these estimates because whenever you double a measurement, it can make your score go up or down drastically. If you add these totals up for main beams, spread, and mass from both sides you get 200 inches. Ive taken as many bull elk with the .300 Win. If the point is 10 shorter, then the bull probably has a 20 fourth point. Generally, a bull with a 300 class rack will be 4 or 5 years old. Winchesters original loadings included a 200-grain bullet rated 3,000 fps, a 250-grain at 2,700 fps, and a heavy 300-grain at 2,450 fps from 24-inch barrels. Theyre all proven to kill elk with proper shot placement and are available in rifles you wont mind carrying in the mountains. The resulting cartridge was based on the .30-06 case necked down to 7mm (.284"). A bull elk is a male, which is much larger and heavier than a female, called a cow. Look to something that fires a 7mm or bigger heavy-for-caliber projectile at around 3,000 fps. overflow: hidden; Here's why. Note: If you are new to elk antler scoring or scoring in general, you can jump down to the bottom and watch the short four part video series on how to score an elk antler. Pushing heavy bullets at well over 3,000 fps, it hits elk like a freight train. Its so common that it may seem a bit boring, but this is probably the most versatile elk cartridge availableso long as you choose the right bullet. .tg .th-lmno { I can't explain those kills. The 9 pointer scored 135 2/8 inches SCI. This measurement has already been accounted for in the main beam measurement. thanks coondog. There are plenty of other .30-calibers for hire. FORLOH AllClima Softshell and AllClima Stretch Woven Pant Review. Browse 755 big bull elk stock photos and images available, or start a new search to explore more stock photos and images. Certainly the .270s and 6.5mms can and do take elk annually, but one would be hard pressed to recommend them as optimum. The main beams will just barely reach his withers. The .280 Remington was introduced in 1957. font-size: 18px; Add these to the base of 200 for your total of 344. For instance, if a bull is a fairly symmetrical 66 just add up one side of his points (G1, G2, G3, G4, & G5) and multiply by two. The author, center, with a 6x6 248 . Assuming we have have a bull elk down that weighs 500 pounds field dressed and we set to work and de-bone all the meat, yielding 250 lbs of meat an allowing about 40 lbs for his head. Once you have this base to start from you simply start adding a bullstine lengths to 200. The first method is to air judge also known as the wing-it approach, which is based on experience and prior knowledge. If thats the camp you hunt from, have at it, but understand that with the .338 Remington Ultra Magnum, every time you pull the trigger you will get smacked with about 45 foot-pounds of recoil. Those are better trajectory numbers than many .338 Win. Nevertheless, the 180-grain has long been the standard with elk hunters. It offers shocking good performance in a beltless, standard-length case and is becoming the go-to, extreme-range hunting cartridge. Ya know, after looking at these pics, I think these bulls are bigger than I expected! Because Winchester didnt insist on the caliber being proprietary, anyone could load and chamber for it. Mag. Can people post pics of what a 300 inch bull looks like vs. say, a 280 inch. Many elk hunters consider the old .375 H&H the ultimate elk medicine, but not everyone cares to handle their recoil or the kind of rifle mass that tames it. If you need to balance reach and punch with minimal weight, Id look to the 7mm magnums pushing 150- to 175-grain bullets. Everybody wants a 400 inch bull elk, but that isn't really a realistic expectation. .tg .tg-4q2i { Plus, ammo is available in just about every sporting goods shop across the West. In the question of Is the .280 Remington within the ideal range of suitable calibers for elk hunting? our answer is: Lets look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. Right up front, this is a short-range proposition. Dropping a bull cleanly takes a good cartridge. LOL. Thats good and congrats to your girl You must log in or register to reply here. trajectory may explain how the 7mm Rem. With the right bullet and .308 hunting rifle, the ubiquitous .308 Winchester is more than adequate out to 300 yards where a high B.C. Recoil is about 30-percent less than the .338 Win. If youre shopping for the perfect elk caliber/rifle, determine how much recoil you can tolerate without flinching and how much rifle weight you might enjoy packing. background-color: #efefef; Mag. Kel-Tec KS7 Pump Action Shotgun Specifications and features. Mag. Ditto rifle size. Its superb on elk to 350 yards or a bit more in the hands of a very good rifleman. A bull with 6 tines on each side is called a 6X6 ("6 by 6"). The distance from that hump down his front leg to his hoof is generally 54 to 58, depending on the maturity of the bull. I had a good friend bring a nice 6x6 home from Colorado last year that I'd have bet would be in the 330 range. I am working up elk loads with both. With the right bullet, the .338 RCM is good all the way from 500 yards down to thick-timber distances. Mag., look at a .338 Federal, .358 Win., or even 7mm-08 Win. For the second, I am prolly on my own, eh? Five whopper Pennsylvania bull elk are in this year's state record book, including the new state #1 non-typical, 455-inch bull elk taken in 2020 in Elk County by hunter Duane Kramer. You can up your odds by having a great elk tag, choosing a great area, booking a high fence hunt. Field judging elk sized animals you don't often get to see, to me anyway, will be harder than it sounds. This article does not serve as the final say, but simply as a starting point for beginner hunters, as well as a venue for further discussion. Elk (Wapiti) have standing shoulder heights between 4'-5'7" (122-170 cm), head-to-body lengths in the range of 6'10"-8" (208-244 . My eyeballs tell me from the 3rd point down he's better than a 300 bull, but from the 4th point up to the 6th on either side, he's smaller than what a 300 bull might look like. BUT a 250" 5x5 would be a real nice bull, as long as the price isn't too high! And the bigger they get, the tougher they become. The .338 Win. When does everyone think is the best time to sell/buy vehicles? Occasionally elk have died more quickly than I expected. I wouldn't hesitate to use my .280 140 gr AccuBond load on elk either. You want to look for anything that is sticking out or extraordinary. font-weight: normal; Most hunters . Mag. No further movement. If the .338s are the best caliber on the upper end for elk, the 7mms are the best at the lower end. Look at the bull from the side and front. Any cartridge in a caliber big enough to hit an elk hard hits you hard, too. 82= 16. Note that a 300 bull will more likely have 45 main beams about 54 inches of total mass and a 35 spread. Multiply by 2 and you have 152. (Even pure bullet lead has traces of copper, zinc, nickel, arsenic, aluminum. Before the 6.5 Creedmoor was born, this was my favorite cartridge for any recoil-sensitive shooters. .tg { Can't find the picture now of one that was 275". Tags 2015 Elk Hunt Colorado Elk Hunt Eastmans Ike Eastman About Ike Eastman With good form, a boat tail 225-grain .338 slug should rate a B.C. 6630 Arroyo Springs St., Suite 1200
Any bull that has a solid 200 inch base and no visible weaknesses is usually a 340 or better bull using this system. Built into a titanium short action with a 20-inch Proof Research carbon fiber barrel and a McMillan Edge stock, it will weigh under six. Please include what you were doing when this page came up and the Cloudflare Ray ID found at the bottom of this page. field judging Some are great on the front end and weak in the back, others are great on the back end and will be short up front, and yet the "normal" 300-inch bull will be equally impressive, but not big . Join F&S+ to read exclusive stories by your favorite writers. high B.C. You may want to do the same with a taxidermist in your area. The outfitter only takes 3 or 4 hunters per week, September 7 to 12, 18 to 23 and October 5 to 10 giving the ranch a rest between hunts. vertical-align: top elkkill2006 # 3957463 04/01/10. whats the biggest bull everyone has shot? We spot the elk then, on the far side of the canyon and feeding upward. My archery bull from last week goes right around 300, maybe an inch or two below. When picking an elk bullet, shy away from light, fast projectiles and pick a heavy version. This guys is on the lower end of your range just breaking 260. My guesses have been wrong many times, yet it is amazing how practice lessens the gap between field estimates and the actual measurements. Thus, a caliber that is effective from 50 yards may not have enough stopping power from 200 yards. Let's look at those assumptions a bit closer in the following table. loads top out with 200-grain bullets, 210-, 220-, and 230-grain options are available. That said, dozens, nay hundreds of elk are layed low each fall by careful application of the 6.5 Creedmoor, a near ballistictwin of the Swede. There are several actions that could trigger this block including submitting a certain word or phrase, a SQL command or malformed data. Magnum, 26 Nosler, and my choice for all-round balance in a short action rifle, the 6.5 PRC. When a bull has his head down feeding, I determine whether the main beam is higher or lower than the hump on his back above his shoulder. Dean had an elk tag and I didn't, so I called for him. Mag., and elk hardly know the difference. A 350 bull must have an average of 16 inches for his G1 through G4 points and 10 inch G5s to be about 350. Here we have leaned conservative by taking the average weight of a male individual of the species, since females generally weigh less and require less stopping power. Clearly there is no one right answer. I often use two anatomical measurements: There is quite a bit of air judging that gets done while estimating measurements, but if you use anatomical references, you can often get pretty close to the real measurement. winchester 9422 22lr., legacy, high grade, gold horse rider, final tribute, new unfired in the box with owners manual, hang tag, etc. Hunters typically but incorrectly use the best elk calibers to mean cartridge, but Ill use calibers for the sake of this review. But to help in estimating a net score remember that most big bulls will have 10 to 12 inches of total symmetry deductions. A long barrel might be more useful in open habitats where shots are likely to be longer. Re: In search of pics of a 260-300 bull. Offering the perfect balance of tremendous energy, large frontal diameter, ballistic efficiency, and long barrel life, the .338 has garnered disciples among rifle savants such as F&S own David E. Petzal. When you push past this performance level with a 7 mm cartridge, you do so with diminishing returns as far as velocity goes. These rifle weight/size considerations will influence cartridge size, especially length. Thats ok. Live and learn is a common aphorism for a reason. Mag., 6.5 Weatherby RPM, 6.5-300 Wby. Yes, it lacks one of the three virtues vital to great elk cartridges. I tried to find similar pictures of each for comparison. Then there are really big, world-record-class bull elk. Males and females also have varied weight ranges. Thats a lot of antler! Mag. The 190-gr. Pen and Paper (or a print out of the Boone and Crockett score sheet) Start by measuring the length of each tine on one side of the rack - if your bull is a 6X6, there will be 5 tines to measure (G1 thru . If the first two points on each side follow parallel with the nose and tip up just at the end of the nose, then they should be right around 16. Your IP: Throw the excellent 32 calibers into the mix, the .325 WSM and 8mm Rem. My picks for the best elk hunting calibers are what I consider the best, not the most popular. So why is it included? Please email us if you have questions about any of our product listings. The kinetic energy of the projectile drops dramatically the further downrange it travels primarily due to energy lost in the form of heat generated by friction against the air itself. His favorite Mossy Oak camo pattern is Treestand. scoring Probably the best course of action on big non typicals is to just shoot and score him on the ground! but doesnt kick as hard. Mag., .338 RUM, .338 Lapua Mag., and massive .338-378 Wby. Again, the goal of this article is simply to address the question of whether .280 Remington is within the ideal range of suitable calibers to harvest elk - and to this question, the response again is yes, the .280 Remington is A GOOD CHOICE for elk hunting. Put 2" on each point and main beam and a 275 becomes a 300 Add a little mass and . Start with 16 G1s and G2s, 12 G3s, 20 G4s, and 12 G5s. You must read and understand your own local laws before hunting elk to know whether your caliber of choice is a legal option. Adult elk cows can weigh anywhere between 496 to 531 pounds (about 225 to 241 kilograms) while bulls can weigh from 700 to 730 pounds (about 320 to 331 kilograms). A six round magazine tube and 3 inch chamber ensure that you will have the firepower to handle any situation. As a result, we put too much pressure on ourselves to kill a bull that scores X amount. We have an embarrassment of choices in 7mms, and elk dont like any. First, I use anatomical references to estimate several of the point lengths. Unless you work with a custom gun builder and handload, study factory options before choosing. Mag. No idea why the pic is upside down.just flip your phone. At 2,500 fps and a B.C. So, I'm guessing him to be in that range you asked about. What's New in Bowhunting World Fear of recoil ruins the best laid plans of mice and men, and thats why choosing the best elk cartridge requires thorough research and honest assessment. I know small-framed hunters who happily pay the gravitational price for packing Granddads M1886 Winchester lever-action in .45/70. The old 757 is itself a proven elk getter. Is the .280 Remington a viable caliber/load/round/cartridge for elk hunting? Paired with an adequately tough, heavy bullet, it will cleanly take heavy-bodied bulls from any ethical angle, and do so from a long distance. This results in these point lengths totaling 397 to 400 plus! The third tines are about the same as the brow tines and the fourth is generally 18 inches or less. It was the only non-typical on Area 23! When you're shopping for a rifle, the list of possible cartridges can be outright confusing. Add in the lighter recoil of the .300 Win. 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