Im in california and Im planning to buy a used 2015 BMW X3 xDrive 28i (F25). Its a shame to have to scrap the car. With the VANOS solenoids removed, the spring loaded VANOS spool valve moved in and out easily. Disregard my question. I dont expect we will put more than 5-6k kilometers per year on it. Like how does this whole update thing work why didnt I have this update system on my 2009 328xi. There were no faults. Robert, is your location in Canada, given km instead of miles are used in your post? Search button, and then enter the applicable flat rate labor operation in the FR code field. Reply Quote. When the VANOS units were removed there was no visible trash. I got this issue and luckily BMW covered it 100%. F10 Any help would be appreciated Hi Andreas, This question has appeared in your blog before. not have the latest software. Thank you again. Its hard to say without performing some test with a diagnostic equipment. its really a shame that BMW does not step up. everything in the vehicle works extremely well. Then I changed the exhaust cam gear and the solenoid. When the VANOS solenoids were removed for testing I checked the marks I made on the VANOS impulse wheels and on the harmonic balancer and they looked perfect. Ive been told by dealership that timing chain is tight and has passed their test. This is due to a diagnostic programming error in the DME. I saw a video where the chap replaced it without the locks and I thought it was an easy DIY. Hello there, loving your info. i took it to a euro car guy that i know he flashed the transmission and that solved the problem, did you get it sorted I, having the same faults. Hi, Thank you, Rev match I say problem. Coasting to a stop the engine suddenly died and would not restart. This will likely be the first and last BMW I will ever own. I know I might be looking at replacing Vanos Actuator, central valve or the whole vanos unit. Its a possibility that the motor could be saved,,,,but it would take a lot of money and time,,,there has been some people of done their own DIY and fixed the engine depending on what is damaged,,,if it is just the timing chain,rails , oil pump and hopefully the bearing arent bad and no damage to the pistons and valves the repairs might not be that bad,,,,you have to realize you have 176k miles which is a lot.,,,and what about the transmission is that next to fail? The oil was black though. You could replace the tensioner if you like,,,you should be ok since your car was probably built in 2015.,,,,you could ask your local dealership on what they think about your car and the timing chain issue. Wont restart. Required fields are marked *. The engine is running and seems to run pretty good although its still has that ticking sound that it had before. This is a common issue on the N20 engine. Four months later I got a drive train malfunction that turned on then went away after a day. When engine starts cam shaft on exhaust goes all the way to the end. E84 There are locking pins integrated inside the units. The hardcore BMW fan base could not help but fall in love with the spritely performance offered by this upgraded engine. It would get to 17% and quit. Did you ever solve this? Glossary of Emission Coverage attachment for more information. The actual angle also varied as in the previous test but on average was nearly equal to the desired angle. Labor: 1.0. 2002 M10 4-cylinder from 1962-1988, and N20/N26 has so many attributes to be legendary. What codes would come up when the timing chain fails? It idles fine and sounds much better than before. I have a 2015 x1 with an April 2015 manufacture date. By ECSTuning in forum Group Purchases & Supporting Vendor Specials presented by, By Milla in forum Engines, Performance Parts & Software, By djKibblez in forum Engines, Performance Parts & Software, General BMW and Automotive Discussion sponsored by Intercity Lines, Track, Auto-X & Drag Racing sponsored by Bimmerparts.com, Professional Motorsports sponsored by Bimmerworld, Suspension Tech and Handling sponsored by eBMWParts.com, Tire & Wheel Forum sponsored by The Tire Rack, Car Audio & Electronics sponsored by Bavsound, Car Detailing and Show & Shine Prep sponsored by Autogeek.net, General BMW Mechanical Help sponsored by RM European Auto Parts, 1 Series & 2 Series (E81, E82, E87, E88, F20, F22, F23, F40, G42), 3 series & 4 Series (E21, E30, E36, E46, E9x, F30, F32, F33, F36, F44), 5 Series (E28, E34, E39, E60, E61, F10, G30), 7 Series (E23, E32, E38, E65, E66, F01, F02), 2003+ X3, X4 (E83, F25, F26, F97, F98, G02), 1999+ X5, X6 (E53, E70, E71, F15, F16, G05, G06), 2019+ Z4 (G29) / 2020+ Toyota Supra (A90/J29), Group Purchases & Supporting Vendor Specials presented by eBay, Georgia sponsored by Harrison Motorsports, :: ECS Tuning :: N52 N54 VANOS Solenoid Valve|Code be GONE, :: ECS Tuning :: VANOS Solenoid Valve for BMW N52 & N54 Engines, WTB: S50 Valve Cover Gasket / VANOS / VANOS Solenoid, If this is your first visit, be sure to
Im not really sure its my 2012 BMW 320i (F30) probably produced from 05/2012 affected by this or not as its did not show in the list. The car started fine the first time and every time since. Everything else works perfectly at 176,000km. Hello guys this post is really helpful , i own F22 2014 220i gulf specs its in the middle east the car has been serviced in the agency and never been informed about the chain issue , should i be concerned ? My engine is N52 Hi, I have N20 with rough idle. I've tested the soleniods and they are both good. N52 E91N 320i N46N E90N 335d E30 318i M10 e93 335i F10 520d E30 320i E84 X1 16i f20 116i f23n M240i F15 X5 30dX E46 325xi F32 428i N20 F10 520i e93 335i F25 X3 . as suggested by dealer over phone or something else? Hello again, hope you having great day!! Learn how your comment data is processed. 2: 12A701 Catalytic converter downstream oxygen sensor, electrical fault: circuit short to battery (+) I would go to the dealer and have the engine scanned to see what fault came up,,,better to be safe then sorry. check out the. But the list post on this forum shows E84 X1 xDrive28i with N20 is a recall! This website is not affiliated with BMW AG in any way, and should not be confused with the websites of BMW AG, BMW M GmbH. I remove the spark plugs all 4 complete soaked and i also remove the Dinan piggy back complete and connect harness direct to DME I also replace the DME with use one [CLONE] still no start but i notice when i crack one of the injector line the fuel pressure is very low which normal be busting out the lines, fuel pump shaft is not broken and no DTC. Also that didnt make a difference and fault is still on outlet side. Or will my timing chain, etc. Here is a video of whats happening today. Thank you. iTrader: ( 0) After change chain tensioner - Drivetrain Malfunction. Only in eco or comfort mode when I drive carefully or just keeping a normal speed at low rpm. Hopefully it will prove to be a non issue. I am quite surprised to see that in Europe there is no one who has reported this problem, whereas with you in the United States it seems very frequent. Unfortunately for me, I was not informed about an extended free warrantee on the chain and guides, BMW kept it quiet. Code 130104 Vanos intake control fault camshaft stuck It currently has 165,000 km without any chain problems. It definitely isnt a prominent/dangerous rattling sound like in the video Jack posted on Aug 30. F30 I dont want to sell the car because nobody is going to give me what I bought it for. Did you hear anything like this before? and cam shaft are not in alignment any more. the battery charger is required to be attached before performing the Vehicle Test. All wiring lines are good. If so, can i buy the warranty for a used car now? E84 and E89: It was somewhat cold today around 20 degrees. The old oil filter was stuck onto the basket. Ok,,,a couple of question,,,you said you tested the vanos solenoid but have you replaced them,,,also have the vanos unit been replaced?,,,,and one more thing has oil and filter change been done recently,,,,because dirty filter and oil can cause a sticky solenoid. Risking my good fortune I had to run the VANOS function test again. Hi Im wondering do I need to have a 7/70 warranty to get BMW cover for this problem? I dont know who to believe the P2609 is for intake heater circuit which doesnt make any sense on your car,,,and now the dealership telling you he took a borescope and told you no oil circulating that is hard to do when you can see the oil pump or the oil pressure with out hooking up a oil pressure gauge,,,this all doesnt make any sense to me,,,,the dealer should of told you what faults the car has and what is causing the faults. only be fixed if it seems like my car will experience the issue (like if they hear the rattling noise that commenters have mentioned/you replied about. I still have under 70k miles and not reached 7 years. module. It looks like the car is on this recall list. E89 reference point is the same? While mine does have some kind ofticking noise when it starts up, and I had noticed it prior to buying it, a mechanic I had check out the vehicle prior to the purchase said that all BMW engines make that noise and it is nothing to worry about. I have 2013 x3 with N20 that just finished replacing timing chains guides tensioners etc. Should I worry about the timing chain issue? The year of 2012 was a year of impending upgrades in . However I did pay out of pocket to replace by valve cover gasket at a BMW dealership 2 years ago. They also included a video from the technician. If that helps you with anything! 131501: Vanos: inlet, cold start not controllable procedure outlined below. I was told by a mechanic that the engine was done, simply by information from a scan. What me be causing this? JavaScript is disabled. If a control module was working properly and/or had no related faults stored prior to vehicle 120408 Intermittent Charging pressure control: switch-off as consequence 2011 BMW 535i [0.00] 535i drivertrain malfunction. Owned Program. Even though work time labor operation code 61 00 006 ends in 006, it is not considered a Main Am I free of concern? Your email address will not be published. 130304 Vanos exhaust control fault camshaft jammed If the fault code for camshaft position sensor goes away or swaps position from intake to exhaust (or vice versa), the fault code is being caused by the VANOS solenoid. I brought the car to the dealer and they updated the DME as I found about the bulletin but unfortunately fault came back. What is your opinion about the above? Yes it should,,,,but sometimes some random faults might still be their, The service engine light has not cleared. Ok,,,if you have a sulve then you have a N26 which is ok,,,you need to tell the dealership that you hear a abnormal whine from the engine area and hopefully they do something about this timing chain issue. I got a few drivetrain malfunctions last week: 131501 vanos, intake, cold start; not adjustable 120408 reduced power mode. Thank you in advance. Do you think it has to do something with the timing belt. BMW INTAKE VANOS ACTUATOR SOLENOID LOCATION REPLACEMENT EXPLAINED F30 F31 F32 F33 F34 428i 328i 320i 420i 418i 318i 316iIf you are trying to find where the i. New battery installed. BMW says I caused engine cease. My daughters car had the timing chain issue N20. MODEL That test sets the cam to a desired number of degrees and reads the actual degrees. They are similar to those that are used in BMW N55. The timing chain & guides are bathed in engine oil, not fuel. One last question about dirty oil. New chain and guides and so far no problems. Car start very well but no power and check engine light on code po52b. Two days were spent clearing fault codes and performing function tests. Code 132408 Vanos Exhaust Intake camshaft not locking at start up Changed the solenoid valves. Andreas first and foremost thank you for sharing your knowledge. Do you think is this something related to eccentric shaft sensor? E84 and E89 she said light came on oil pressure error stop immidiatly Loaner vehicle was included. Hello, N20 and N26 Engine: Various VANOS System Faults Stored in DME MODEL E84 E89 F10 F25 F30 F31 F34 . Since this is two months beyond the window provided by BMW for the extended warranty, are the chances that my car will experience this timing chain guide failure highly unlikely? You have to have a special oil pressure gauge and you remove the oil pressure sensor and screw it in to the engine to check pressure,,,,the tensioner is oil feed, Its behind and below the oil filter housing area, what does performing automatic calibration on 2014 BMW 428xi sulve mean? The warrantee was in place until 2019. So I have an US 2013 BMW sdrive28i with 109k miles build date 02/2013. with the following integration levels: My rule if its not broken dont fix it,,,,dont take the solenoids apart ok,,,,the turbo boost fault was related to the vanos faults. no dtc but it complete its combustion cycle i check for spark, fuel and compression was reading ok on all 4 cylinder but there black smoke and strong gas smell out the exhaust.I allso found wire harness for dinantronics box which is pigger back to DME was rubbing under the eng. Most auto repairs shops charge between $75 and $150 per hour. Ok,,,,no the sprocket does not have to be in a special position,,,,you have to lock down both camshaft with special tool,,,engine on TDC,,,,you have to tighten the chain tensioner and then you can tighten both vanos unit,,,you should be able to hand turn over the engine to TDC and lock down the camshafts again with the tool and you should be fine after that. I have a f10 2013 528i x drive with 105k miles on it , The engine makes a rattling noise when cold and its not as loud when the car warms up but when driving at around 1-25 mph their is a whining noise coming from the engine. F30 / F31 / F32 / F33 / F34 / F36 (2012 - current). 2013 BMW X1 E84 WITH N2O MOTOR 11400ML This situation can occur as a customer complaint, or after performing labor operation. 131501 Variable camshaft timing control (VANOS) intake, cold start: not controllable. The exhaust cam had the following desired/actual degrees: 0.6/-9, 20/17, 11/9, 20/17. 130304 Intermittent VANOS (variable cam shaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck I want to make sure this issue is fixed. [ Copyright 2013 BMW of North America, Inc. ] Hi,,,yes your car is not on the list but that doesnt mean that it still has this problem,,,and since your car is 4 wheel drive the chain is not being used more it is the same on both 4 wheel drive and rear wheel drive,,,,now if you want to keep the vehicle it is a good idea to replace the timing chain and rails and oil pump chain for safety reasons. Defect Code: 11 36 01 96 00 After starting the car again the error came back on the screen but the power was back. Thats important to know for later. When I read the code through ISTA, these codes are. Also how does a dealerships diagnose if a vehicle is eligible for extended timing chain warranty? No one knows what this CDA904 code means. The cam is at -18 degrees and not changing. These are all pretty standard specs for most modern BMW engines. The head mechanics at BMW Santa Monica have no idea either. 3: 130304 VANOS (Variable camshaft timing) exhaust: control fault, camshaft stuck I have 2013 BMW X1 xdrive28i with 79,000 km on it. Im more concerned with the multiple vanos codes which happened after the fact. And is the tension just spring our does it rely on oil pressure as well? It possible a software issue,,,we have seen that before. If so, can I buy the warranty for the used car now? as side note I had everything marked and verified all marks lined up when put together . The car is as we speak back to the dealer for further diagnose and they have seen a slight difference in the crankshaft position or something like that.. one of the shafts was not in the correct angle. The engine is running rough at idle. BMW replaced the motor and shipped it to us in AZ from Virginia. Ive change engine mount, spark plug, coil but problem is the same. What should I do next? How do I approach the dealer saying I hear a noise and whatnot for them to fix it while it is still under warranty? Other engines may have this same scenario, but it's not typical. Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164466 Mfg#: 11377603979KT5 Qty: Availability: In Stock $243.84 Add to Cart Free Shipping on orders $59 and up Valvetronic Actuator Replacement Kit Includes actuator, actuator gasket and valve cover gaskets Brand: ES#: 4164462 Mfg#: Think I'll avoid this. Are there many vehicles that run on ethanol in the United States? Was it how the faults were cleared that made the difference? Covered under the terms of the BMW New Car/SAV Limited Warranty or the BMW Certified Pre- Hi, I own a 2012 BMW X1 that recently developed a timing chain problem. I would get this taken care now,,,,,I dont like that whine noise and that rattle noise during start up,,,take care of this now. 61 00 720 Refer to KSD2 Programming / encoding control unit(s) But that is all. Hi Hi, I have little complicated problem with F30 N20B20 2012 engine.. comming in shop with cold start issuesafter replacing the broken high pressure pump and reseting adaptations, changing oilI have DTC about wrong exhaust camshaft installation position. should I buy timing lock kit to lock the cams and cranksshaft in place? During a recent oil change & tire rotation service visit, my regular BMW service establishment (non-dealership) let me know my timing chain was loose and I should get it checked out at the local BMW dealership. The VANOS function test showed that both VANOS units were working. Do you replace the units in such case, or do you know a trick to lose them? (not including CAS) I would just pay attention to any abnormal whine noise,,,,there is no maintenance on the timing chain. 131401 Il motore N20 esordisce nel marzo 2011 sotto il cofano della BMW X1 xDrive28i, ed in versione da 245 CV, ma sei mesi dopo stato affiancato da una versione depotenziata, in grado comunque di sviluppare 184 CV. The cost of diagnosing the P052B BMW code is 1.0 hour of labor. N20/N26 is an attemptof BMWAG to reclaim 4-cylinder glory from the past, e.g. The dealership should be interested in fixing it because it means money for the tech and for the dealership,,,,that doesnt make any sense. Labor Operation: Labor Allowance: Description: When I go to accelerate now, the engine lags. It is a total mystery (to me) as to why it works now. U tell me, BMW my have a governor,,,but you still can over rev the engine,,,,it is a strange design that doesnt work,,,but I think BMW did this way so they can blame the customer for over reving the engine and not paying for a blown engine. It had deteriorated and failed. The only odd result is that the desired angles of 0 and 0.6 had actual angles that were off by ~8 degrees. Im wondering if I can just replace those bolts with new steel ones , my car is out of warranty and it has not develop any issues yet , but as precautionary measure I was wondering if this is possible? This documentation is not necessary when part of an approved Technical Service repair procedure; Problem is, mine arent locked. F10, F25, F30, F31 and F34: You are correct almost all the problem are in the States,,,all the engines are built in the same plant,,,there is a good chance that the fuel is the cause of these problems,,,,yes it is a good thing your car is not on the list. I called BMW and they said no recalls on the car and told me to take it to a BWM Official garage. no hesitation. code:131501 VANOS, intake, cold start: not controllable. 2D54 VANOS, exhaust, starting from cold: Non-adjustable 176000km is only 110000 miles, that is a shame that such a nice compact power house(N20/N26 that is) can go bust in such young age, BMW really should step up and recall all the affected N20/N26 with defective parts. Having the same. Recently purchased 2104 BMW X1 28i x drive. My 2013 X3 28i timing chain was replaced by BMW (no cost to me) in January 2019 at 107,000 km. The Service Engine Soon lamp and Engine Malfunction warning are illuminated, and the vehicle also it has a start stall initially. (with CAS) Or maybe the fuel that would be implicated! https://youtu.be/Frj0a82XfDo, He did not notice any whining- but do you hear whining in this second video? Car history: before selling the car last owner took it to BMW, changed oil and filters, rear tires and spark plugs. Engine also has forged crankshaft with 4 counterweights that is installed with shift. I know impulse sending wheels and camshaft they need to be lined up using a special tool. https://www.bmwtis.net/tiscode/cgi-bin/bulletin.aspx?sie_path=/tsb/bulletins/htm_store/158 1/6/2014 What can be the issue, they have fixed it twice already, I dont know what the automatic calibration means on a sulve.,,,on this P3195 code that isnt a factory code so I dont know what it means,,,you said BMW fixed the radiator what did they do to the radiator,,,,did they replace it,,,,you could have a t-stat issue causing a temperature problem with the radiator,,,or a water pump issue,,,,I need BMW codes,,, not P codes. I don't drive the car very aggressively, however i noticed that it didn't pull as hard as it used to a couple of days leading to the drivetrain malfunction. Thank you so much for your advice. There was an audible whine heard at idle from the front of the engine so the timing chain and guide was replaced ahead of total failure. The update can only be done at the dealer,,,you will only need a update if there is some kind of BMW recall on software or if at anytime your car might need some other repair which might call for a update for the repairs.,,,your 2009 is a lot older system,,,that car is like Windows XP compared to Windows 10,,,,lol,,,there's a big difference both As there is a known TSB and the solenoid is VVT. 131501 VANOS, intake, starting from cold: Non-adjustable I dont know how serious this is,,,but your mechanic is right to remove the valve cover and inspect the timing chain and guide rails,,,,if that is ok the check the exhaust vanos unit and intake vanos units,,,,your faults are for the exhaust side,,,the boost charge fault is due to the exhaust vanos faults. Earlier this week I took my 2012 328i to dealership because check engine light came on. So temperatures make difference. Maybe I should replace them? Im going to trade. I assume it will need to be replaced just because its higher in milage but do you think BMW would warranty it out knowing that theyve said it was lifetime of the vehicle? I havent been sleeping well. Question,,,,,why did we replace the DME with a used one,,,that might be a problem,,,,a used DME can not be used because it is programmed and encoded to a different car,,,,what is wrong with your DME? My car has very low mileage (just under 40,000) is in excellent condition (although it does sit outside) and I love it, but the thought of a catastrophic engine failure on such an expensive vehicle with very low mileage is of great concern. The values changed. Yes you have a 2015 you have a better chance of no timing chain issues. Please advice me how can I go about with the local dealer? Im thinking the dealership is just not interested in fixing it. THNX. Reprogram the vehicle ISTA/P 2.51.0 or higher. I bought an x3 28ix build on 07/2015, model 2016 with 124000km. 2013 X3 N20 28i. 2008 BMW 128I [0.00] Check engine light DTC 131501. Most likely you have broken timing chain guides and the whole timing set will need to be replaced. Not a good sign, had the same thing happen on 2013 X3. Thank you, No still would be concern,,,,I dont know if they used a different timing chain guide before 6/2012. Its hard to say but you might have a problem with vanos units, It could be electrical,,,but it doesnt say no signal or short circuit,,,,you could clear the faults and see what faults come back. It revs fine but with the turbo disabled a drive around the block is at a pedestrian pace. Is it possible to remove the snap ring and take out the VANOS spool valve, spring and check ball for cleaning with the VANOS unit in the engine? The oil and filter have always been genuine BMW. another repair, use the Plus code labor operation 00 00 556 instead. Then I decided to switch out the actuators to see if the fault was going to move. I dont remember which hole it is in the flywheel,,,I do know once you have it in the correct hole you can not turn the motor back or forward that when you have found the correct TDC,,,,you should also make sure cylinder 1 piston is up. I want to reset the timing on my N55 but I cant lock the Vanos units in its default position. This TC issue really is so unfortunate, at a time when BMWAG is behind upstart like Tesla and old foes like Audi. The oil and filter were changed along with the timing chain. Everything works, radio, windows, Locks. also by any chance would you know the torque specs for this bolts? Two questions: Should I be concerned about the timing chain/guides issue in her vehicle? Labor operation code 00 00 006 is a Main labor operation. Previous posts of timing chain upgrade explains my experience. Please advice. What could be the problem? The boost control fault is caused by the vanos fault,,,you need to check into the the vanos faults to see whats going on. Or do you think its just possible plastic bits of junk in the sump pump pick up? 3. One customer describe his 2013 BMW F18 525Li with 61000km mileage got trouble.The car engine warning light on and central display "Transmission malfunction".But it can start engine and accelerate normally.More repair cases about BMW,please check here:BMW Trouble Repair Use BMW ISID to diagnose,got trouble code as below: Fault Code: 135401 Fault Explanation: Valvetronic: overloaded If one of the applicable faults listed above is stored in the DME then continue with the C. I thinks it just some random fault that comes up. My question is, when I remove the central valve, will the timing chain or sprockets will slip their position? Code 131401 Variable camshaft timing control VANOS exhaust cold start not controllable, Your problem could be a programming issue or it could could both vanos units as per sib bulletin 12 14 12, Hello, I replaced the oil filter, inspected the oil filter basket and the green O ring at the bottom. Page 3 of 4 thanks, You might want to look at the timing chain on a N20,,,that can cause a lot of different problem, Your email address will not be published. Hi. Hey, I have a 2014 BMW 428i (F32 with an N20 engine) it is just under 70k around 61,000 I believe and it looks like it was manufactured in 9/2013. or I have the alignment tool to lock the crankshaft, camshafts and impulse sending wheel. 1d2404 Map thermostat, activation, line disconnection Please help! Hi, I recently bought a 2012 X1 xDrive28i. The fault returns when its hot outside and comes back even faster when I turn on the air conditioning. The tensioner sometime start to malfunctioning due to lack of motor oil (it is actioned by the oil pressure). December 2013 Was it coincidental and maybe the bits of trash in the both VANOS spool valves cleared at the exact same time? He believes that its not enough oil pressure in the tensioner therefore is not tight as it should be. By any chance do you know how long will the dealerships receive this extended warranty info after the case settles? Hi Chip.. Did you ever come across a step by step procedure in doing this? Cheers. unfortunately info on this N20 is almost none exist at best. Intake Camshaft: Installation faulty. Ok the charge boost pressure fault is related to the vanos faults,,,,the vanos faults could be a couple of things but since you just replaced the timing chain maybe the timing is not correct on the intake vanos unit? Suddenly the half yellow engine light came on and was telling me that reduced engine power bla bla. Engine BMW X3 and X4 Forums | F25 (2011 - 2017) | F26 (2014 - 2017), Second Generation BMW X3 (F25) General Forum, https://www.newtis.info/tisv2/a/en/fshaft/HtiBPV3K, https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2053485-8362.pdf. possible oil pump chain broken? You can't just bolt it up and clear the fault. If you are using a Main labor code for 130108 VANOS, intake, control fault, position not reached Warranty. Page 1 of 4 I've done exactly the same thing and caused this issue by replacing the timing chain tensioner. Im sorry,,,and I hate how BMW has handled the whole problem with the N20-N26 engine and timing chain issue,,,I understand your frustration with BMW and how they didnt take care of this known problem. Ill check my gas cap but I need to clear this code. I appreciate any input. 01-18-2020, 01:07 PM #2 mandd Autobahn East Join Date Some people say it could be related to timing chain but when I check the timing chain with a cold engine by hand it does not move. I bought 2012 X1 with 85,000km and after reading different posts makes me worried about the timing chain issue, I called the dealer they said there is no recall on this vehicle except driver side air bag! N20 Vanos Solenoid Valve BMW tech info says the cams need to be locked down to remove the Vanos valve. Hi, I have a 2014 BMW 428i X drive coupe. The timing was checked several times after installing the new chain. Seems like the locking pins are stuck. I am not sure if it was the wrong filter. I fear that your 2012 X1 is now past the 7 year warranty limit. I am thinking switching vanos solenoids and see result. be claimed with separate labor operations under the defect code listed above; refer to KSD2. The starter and engine appear to make no attempt to start. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. FM pistons with negative bias of piston ring are also installed in this motor. 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