So, if you dryfire a lot, you have to have snap caps or dummy rounds to take that impact from the firing pin. Its only stupid if the gun is smarter than the operator. Walther PK380 just points and shoots, very easy. On the negative side, the aluminum slide means the pistol is quite a bit lighter in weight than the centerfire ones, and being a firearm means it cant simply ship to your door like a conversion kit can. No difference in function. I think its a very soft shooting gun for a 9mm, and my wife who barely shoots thinks the recoil is pretty minimal. The aluminum paddle is so much better looking and feeling, and only take a session or two at the range to master. What are the best ammo brands and bulk ammo brands for the PPQ? PPQ-M2 9mm stock is ready to go. The technical difference likely involves MIM parts and other cheaper manufacturing methods for the PPX. Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 600, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. They all grouped much tighter with it. The grip form and texture are superior to Glocks. My only complaint is that the muzzle flip is a bit excessive. It's almost like a factor of deduction in a good Sherlock Holmes mystery. Having diverse .45s and a Glock 20 (with an extra .40cal barrel), I went with the PPQ. There are only a couple of light scratches on the slide and no sign of rusting or corrosion anywhere at all. Torn between a suppressor ready 4 and a 5 with the better front sight and longer sight radius. I am with Tex300BLK on the magazine release. Street price starts at about $310. The solution to this problem is to replace the front sight. Below is the probable cause of this problem and its solution. One question: Due to the thinness of the top of the slide the foot at the base of this screw needs to be as large as possible. It differs from the earlier M1 in that theres a reversible mag-release button instead of a paddle, and it accepts different magazines as well. Have a gunsmith install them for you. So far, the PPQ has yet to suffer a single jam or malfunction. Defective fire control assembly: If your guns fire control assembly is defective, it will fail to fire. Prolly not your issue, but if I can't fix a gun issue, it goes back immediately. Sights: front sight is 3-dot low profile polymer; rear sight windage adjustable, steel night sights available, Barrel Length: 4.0-inch barrel for 9mm, 4.2-inch barrel for .40 S&W, Weight Unloaded: 21.7 ounces for 9mm, 22 ounces for .40 S&W, Weight Loaded: 24.5 ounces for 9mm, 24.9 ounces for .40 S&W, Overall Length: 7.1 inches for 9mm, 7.2 inches for .40 S&W, Grips: Cross-directional textured tactical grip, Additional Features: quick-defense trigger, three backstraps, ambidextrous slide release, reversible mag release, serrations on front and rear of slide. However, its my understanding that the standard 4 slide version and the 5 slide version use the same type of barrel so you could add a thread adapter to either of those models as well. The Walther PPQ gives accuracy. So, the lugs on the barrel will not correctly align inside the locking block. The PPQ M2 .22's slide is hard anodized, CNC machined aluminum. I was shooting Winchester Ranger ammunition .40 S&W 165 grain. I think this guy will be on the to get list. When you up the slide stop and it just flops, and there is no spring tension keeping it down, then you know that the spring is broken. I took the three supplied magazines, added the Taylor Freelance extended base pads and started shooting. That internal hammer setup looks remarkably similar to my S&W M&P22. discussions around Walther firearms including but not limited to the PPK, PPK/S, PP, P38, PPQ, PPS, P99, PPX, CCP, PK380, P22, G22, WA2000, VG, G43, G41, MP, CREED, and Q5 Match. RememberI was a Glock man! Someone over at Walther said Hey the Americans like little chunks of plastic sticking out of the frame and was greated with Ok lets dril a hole in the frame and give them a button. For a gun that flows so well the button just feels out of place and the plastic they made it out of looks and feels cheap. Please Wait. Since I am extremely happy with my 9mm PPQ, will I be satisfied enough with the 5 barrel on the PPQ .22LR regarding accuracy? I thought maybe it was a lemon gun, so I did some extensive Interweb searching and found numerous forums where others had the same complaint. As to accuracy and simply fun to shoot the other gun I have that may supersede the PPQ is a 1942 P08, I simply love to shoot that gem. Then a vertical screw needs to be added to press one of the end of the mount up so that the part is firmly secured to the slide. very reliable, at least with one type of ammo [Well, as long as primers are well seated!] Walther P22 Q Variants. Width:1.3 Ive been using the 40 grain copper plated Remington golden bullets and the Federal automatch stuff does well. You forgot to mention that the rear of the extractor becomes sunken below the surface of the slide so that you can tell by touch when a round is chambered. Squib load: The round will get caught in the barrel when the squib load happens. Im just saying. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. I have 2 M&P 40s, full size and compact, but wanted a decent 9. Unfortunately 18 round magazines are no where to be found - a failing by Walther. Took apart the striker assembly and noticed the spring looked . It was my go to target gun and I was shooting 3 or 4 times a week. Your PPQ will serve you well for years! It helped me become pretty good with pistols. Generally, too heavily lubricated means that you have used a lube that was good in warm weather, but now, the lube gums up the gun in cold weather. Now I think I need the 9. If you're pressed on time, here's a quick list of the best sights for Walther PPQ M2: Meprolight Tru-Dot Self-illuminated Night Sight: Best Rear Sight. I just recently picked up a new Walther PPS M2 LE when gun buyers had their sale and I absolutely love the gun so far. I had a P22hated it.said id never buy another Walther.bought this one LOVE IT..it is not a P22. Each time I had several unintentional double-taps. You have entered an incorrect email address! Favor the extractor spring diagnosis. Your Walther PPQ might fail to feed. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for FACTORY Walther Magazine Mag for P22Q 10 Rd 22 22LR Clip P22 512604 at the best online prices at eBay! The size of the bump along the back of the grip made me think it wasnt going to fit my hand very well. I made three attempts with Customer service. I stand corrected. Am I dreaming or not? Certainly there are many manufacturers who make button releases that are truly ambidextrous use, the M2 is much like the G19, in that it requires a configuration change to switch. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Honestly though, Im so satisfied with the factory grip on my PPQ anyway, that I wont be changing it anytime soon. Yet it still looks just as good as when I first bought it. So it would fire, it just wouldn't reset itself to accept the next round. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. I will never ever buy another Walther anything. Action: semi-automatic, locked breech, short recoil operated. According to the Walther website it IS zinc alloy, so somebody is wrong (and I hope its Walther???). This gun feels really solid for a polymer framed pistol. The slide is not in the battery: One probable cause of this malfunction is that the slide is not in the battery. I want to work on precision shooting, noncompetitive for now. That is, mechanically accurate plus however much I was screwing up sight alignment that day. When fired, it would fire correctly but the slide would not slide all the way back into place. Yes, the P99 was only the latest installment in the polymer-pistol world that GLOCK had established, and yes, it did notoriously (though temporarily) replace the timeless PPK as James Bonds sidearm to the polarized reactions of 007 fans. and just to be sure were clear here in case you didnt see it in the review, the PPQ M2 .22 has no pot metal (zinc alloy, ZAMAK, etc) in it at all, No zinc alloy here. A thread adapter certainly opens up a near-endless list of doodads you can affix to the business end of the PPQ .22. Considering how good that gun was, it was clear I had to get my hands on Walthers .22 LR version of the PPQ. After that, lubricate it for the given environment. I usually carry a G30S, but sub in the PPQ occasionally, since it fits my 30S holsters very well and draws about the same to first pair. I was definitely pleased to see this PPQ run everything. When you get a 9mm with muzzle flip like a 45, the only advantage youre left with is capacity. But the P99 built a well-deserved reputation for its advanced ergonomics, ambidextrous controls, and proven reliability. The magazine well on the Walther PPQ M2 is really deficient. Feels like a pretty standard 5-6.5lbs. Bro no offense but thats way out of the warranty period. Next, and my biggest issue with this gun is that the slide is consistently fails to return to battery or is delayed by half a second or so. Clean and lubricate your gun to solve the issue. It doesnt bother me any. Question of the Day: Do You Know Any Fudds? Its now pretty darn dirty, having shot about 400 suppressed rounds through it and another 50 or so unsuppressed and the factory oil and grease doing a good job of attracting carbon and other crud. Fuggedaboudit! The PPQ M2 .22s slide is hard anodized, CNC machined aluminum. Specifications: Walther PPQ M2 9mm. Also the P22 and the M&P22 and probably others as well. Try a spare magazine, repair or replace it. Walther PPQ M2 FDE 9mm. .22 pistols are known for being finicky. My heart is beating at what Walther has in store next. It will go nicely with my laser engraved Spectre take-down pins, Totally agree. fits a womans small to medium-sized hands Trigger - Score: 9. Then youre capable of safely stripping this gun apart. PPQ M2 4-INCH 9MM Field Test. After ~3k rounds still no issues other than some dirty Armscor FTEs. BUY ONE. Fix this issue by cleaning and lubricating your pistol. So youve only fired a Glock and maybe a revolver or DAO semi-auto? Failure to feed means that the cartridge is stuck moving from the magazine into the barrel when you pull the trigger. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Quick Reply to: Don't count on finding any. This hits hard because I feel how you do about sig (320) and my first pistol was a ppq. If you want a pistol with a lifetime warranty then buy one (many other Walther models have lifetime warranties for the original purchaser). These are built by Walther, not Umarex. Great gun, like the paddle mag release, love the trigger. Is the PPQ perfect? Even though Im right handed, I practice shooting with my left as much as I can. However, there still isnt much in the way of aftermarket support for things like sights. There is about a hundred dollars more for the FN 502. The full-size Walther PDP frame offers an eyebrow-raising 18+1 rounds on tap, making the grip too long to accommodate shorter PPQ mags. It feels very good and the reset is wonderful. For long-term durability a steel breech block, containing the firing pin mechanism, extractor, breech face, etc is pinned into the slide. (Thats all I brought with me.) The moment I first fired the PPQ, I knew the trigger was in a league of its own. That doesnt explain GLOCK conversion kits running, though. Steel targets no problem. Then you will have the best of all worlds. Twenty-two years later, the company had produced their first pistol, the Model 1 in 6.35mm. Thanks for the info. No zinc alloy here. Place in a new backstrap, push the pin back in, and youre good to go! Looking forward one day to own an M1 9mm. If you get a good firearm from Walther you might be good. Also rare, and of the handful of examples I've seen, most have been in .40. Try some better quality ammo like WWB. Most striker-fired 9mm on market (such as P320) need a lot of work. Sold my Glock 19. We love how there's now threaded versions and also versions that come with a laser. The rounds seem to eject and feed fine, looking at the ejection port when the slide is stuck doesnt seem to reveal any issues there. Criteria and Considerations for Reviewing the Walther PPQ M2 4-inch 9mm. No downsides period. Functions flawlessly. Project Appleseed: Learn Marksmanship, History and a Little More. Walther took perhaps its biggest step forward in 1997 with the pioneering P99. And its not a lack of trigger discipline. A lot of that was due to the weapons ban of the 90s and restrictions that were put on the pistol for importing to the US. I'll double check the Walther forum. reminder: this is not a new pps m2 recall. Everything was aces with the Element 2 that I wont be able to pick up for a few more months, and as you can see in the video it also ran flawlessly with it and was nice and quiet to boot. In a bad situation, youre able to get more rounds more accurately on the adversary more instinctively..(if that makes sense!) Its one of the most corrosion/wear resistant finishes you could ask for on a production pistol. However, if you dry fire with your pistol excessively, you will break either the striker, the firing pin, or the striker spring. Is this normal or did I get a bad gun? You actually reminded me I should probably get it looked at and fixed. I called Walther and they said my gun is well past its intended life span. Walther claims a forever warranty. Integrated Hex Tool in the Removable Backstrap. PPQ M1 .40. That said, as long as you have your fundamentals down, you won't have any problem quickly reloading your Walther PPQ. I purchased a Walther P22 when they first came out, a zinc slide? If the problem is already there, install a new trigger bar guide to fix this issue. Cant have it all. The only downside is I cant find mags anywhere. Any problems or concerns with yours? Wife shoots PPQ-M2 9mm 4" in IDPA and it has not given her any problems in many 1000s of rounds. It also has a loaded-chamber indicator: When there is a round in the chamber, a red marking appears on the slide due to the extractor being pressed. A lot of people seem to complain about a sharp recoil, muzzle flip? Accuracy: * * * * * Jeremy strives to collect objective data whenever possible, and looks to write accurate reviews that reflect the true user experience. Youll find that basically everything about the ergonomics, controls, accuracy, reliability, quality, etc has carried over. I honestly don't know if the CCP has a stepped chamber, but I know the PPQ does and doesn't tolerate much out of spec. I do like the gun, and purchased it because its the only one Ive found that my arthritic-handed wife can use. Its single action only. These troubleshooting tips will cover everything from failure to feed, to failure to eject. Haha. One of the reasons I love my CZ Kadet Adapter .22 LR upper conversion for my SP-01 is that it allows me to shoot .22 LR with the same grip, controls, and trigger as my go-to pistol, and the PPQ .22 can also provide this kind of experience for centerfire PPQ owners. Also, thanks to the .22 LR magazine being so slim but the PPQ .22s grip being the normal width, the pistol benefits from a sweet magwell. Get the rear sight sold by 10-8 performance: Walther PPQ Rear Sight - 10-8 Performance Store and get a fiber optic for the front sight. Deformed parts: One cause is that the magazine or pistol is broken, the slide stop lever is broken, or the magazine tube is deformed. They were pretty quick getting me an rma with a prepaid FedEx label, though I missed it for a few weeks because it was filtered to a folder I didnt check. I haven't heard of any breaking, at all. The Walther PPQ is going to come with three-dot, white sights. 9mm Pistol, http://www.kygunco.com/walther-ppq-m2-22lr-12rd-magazine-73229. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Suppressed or not, this pistol has been incredibly reliable. That is the one real big negative I had on the pistol, but Talon grips changed the grip big time and it actually grips and feels better than the PPQ in hand once this is done. Weak magazine release spring: This means that as you are shooting, the spring is so weak that your grip interferes with the button and depresses it. The frame is the same polymer that you get on the big boy toys, and it has steel inserts for the slide rails, barrel block, and basically all of the moving parts. Does anyone have the same problem? The pull is so light and smooth at only 5.6 pounds, with a .1-inch reset (awesome!) Here are the different types of gun malfunctions and what to do about them: Squib Load. 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